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Re: Re: Re: Re: RVB POCOs
From: Gevlon Goblin
Sent: 2014.03.17 16:33
To: Alekseyev Karrde,

Hi,

This war drop is most unfortunate. It is combined with a problem among Lemmings: we decced RvB which lapsed, but RvB did not join the Goon war as allies, since Lemming fleets practically stopped. There was some drama here which I can only attribute to envy: Noir took 2x more POCOs in 1 week than Lemmings in 2 months. The words "mandatory CTA" were uttered, laughed off and FCs left.

So: currently Lemmings are not at war with RvB and will stay that way until Lemmings hit a Goon POCO. But they won't as no one leads the fleets. Which brings us back to the point I hired Noir: because I needed someone who can fly fleets regularly and Lemming attendance did not allow it. However FCs used to be happy with the few victories, which now look bad compared to Noir, so they stopped flying fleets/left.

I have no idea how to solve this. You made it clear that you won't put announcer alt to Lemmings, the Marmite-based Lemming leadership is passive-aggressive towards Noir. However without the Lemming numbers, RvB might stop overforming, since they know that Noir can't form 60 guys, so the blueballing effect decreases.

Do you have any idea how could we include Lemmings into fleets?

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Re: Re: Re: RVB POCOs
From: Alekseyev Karrde
Sent: 2014.03.17 14:42
To: Gevlon Goblin,

It's a 24h no shooting timer between clicking the dec button and when it goes "live." We've already reinforced 2 POCO yesterday with timers that will come out apx +2h after our war will be active again. One of them is the Blue POCO in Uemsaisen which we wont be able to kill unless they immidiately ally onto the Goon was. If RVB does not immidiately ally onto the war, we'll take another POCO in Ibura either uncontested or on the back of a dead Goon repair squad.-á

Also fun fact we'll be able to engage any Red Federation that go suspect repping Uemsaisen with like no consequences. It would be really awesome if Lemmings could bait them into a fight so all the Blue logi go suspect repping the Red combat ships. Would be able to drop 10ish double neut tempests right on their logi core and they wont be able to do anything about it.

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Re: Re: Re: RVB POCOs
From: Gevlon Goblin
Sent: 2014.03.17 05:03
To: Alekseyev Karrde

This slip can work for our purpose too: when you re-declare, you won't automatically get RvB as allies. If they forget, you can engage Goon POCOs without the pets on the ready.

War: Noir. Mercenary Group vs. Goonswarm Federation ends at 20:36. If you reinforce Goon POCOs around 19:00, they won't be out of RF before you return to the war, as Goons timed them to 1:00 and it happens one day later (so on Wednesday 1:00, while you can be at war with them at Tuesday 20:37 if you instantly re-declare). Or am I getting it wrong?

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Re: Re: RVB POCOs
From: Alekseyev Karrde
Sent: 2014.03.17 04:54
To: Gevlon Goblin,

Yes, re-reinforced it after we killed that Thorax. The fleet they took out to rep it was semi-engagable but i didnt try because i was talking to kypp from Marmite and he said they were on the way. That fleet never showed up and RVB went home, so we killed a stragler and attacked again. We also reinforced another POCO closer to EC-. Eventually i plan on reinforcing a Torrinos POCO, literally right in front of Goons main 0.0 entrance system. We'll see if they "didnt want those POCO anyway" -áwhen we literally pee on their lawn.-á

Unfortunatly my slip up with the war means one of our POCO reinforces from the other day-á-áwill be untouchable, but that's fine. Can always do it again XD

RE Lemmings, yeah I'm getting that sense too. W/e, we'll just keep doing it on our own. We've been making steady progress on the POCO, and even getting some ship kills. It'd be a lot easier to directly engage RVB is we even had a few guys to help tie down their tacklers but w/e, we'll just keep blue balling them until they slip up and dont bring counters to our fleet w their rep ships.-á

-Aleks

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Re: Re: RVB POCOs
From: Gevlon Goblin
Sent: 2014.03.17 04:45
To: Alekseyev Karrde

Hi,

I didn't want to mention it up till now, but it became clear that the Marmite-based Lemming leadership look at you as competitor and not as help (as they obviously should). I will try to handle it diplomatically first, if it doesn't change, I will just force it happen, no matter how much bad blood it causes. There are lot of people in Lemmings who like flying in fleets, but the Lemming fleets were grounded by RvB spies reporting their size and composition and RvB forming up 3x bigger fleets in counters. You have to watch out for spies too if there are Lemmings in your fleet.

By the way, Lemmings cannot provide the serious PvP that many people expect and they leave anyway. If you wish, poach such players into Noir Academy. Of course it's best done in composite fleets, but to announce that often, you probably have to put an alt into Lemmings (can be 1-day old, I can invite it into my alt corp). Again: it's not me telling you to do it, if you are fine with Noir-only fleets, you don't have to. However, if you want the recruitment potential (and the meat shield) of composite fleets, please consider the announcer alt.

Thanks for the screenshot, it's great. I flew out to the POCO in question, and it's reinforced. Did you do that after that fleet left

Lemming fleets practically stopped. There was some drama here which I can only attribute to envy: Noir took 2x more POCOs in 1 week than Lemmings in 2 months. The words "mandatory CTA" were uttered, laughed off and FCs left.

So: currently Lemmings are not at war with RvB and will stay that way until Lemmings hit a Goon POCO. But they won't as no one leads the fleets. Which brings us back to the point I hired Noir: because I needed someone who can fly fleets regularly and Lemming attendance did not allow it. However FCs used to be happy with the few victories, which now look bad compared to Noir, so they stopped flying fleets/left.

I didn't want to mention it up till now, but it became clear that the Marmite-based Lemming leadership look at you as competitor and not as help (as they obviously should). I will try to handle it diplomatically first, if it doesn't change, I will just force it happen, no matter how much bad blood it causes. There are lot of people in Lemmings who like flying in fleets, but the Lemming fleets were grounded by RvB spies reporting their size and composition and RvB forming up 3x bigger fleets in counters. You have to watch out for spies too if there are Lemmings in your fleet.

By the way, Lemmings cannot provide the serious PvP that many people expect and they leave anyway. If you wish, poach such players into Noir Academy.

I was on comms with Drb when this happened.

I can ashore you we in marmite don't condone this kind of behaviour at all.

this was delt with quickly by myself and should not happen again.

Racism does not belong anywhere in this day and age full stop.

Calling someone a psychotic racist is even way out of line for you and I hope you get banned from the forums for it. Seriously alex ??

This also causes that people who reach puberty earlier - like women - has lower IQ on average, despite no such deficit in earlier age. Simply their brain development stopped earlier. But what happens in puberty that stops brain development.

Tora must have done something right.

Since Noir Carebear Mercenoties didn't have the balls to fights us, we decided we will hunt them down ourselves.

You're in the wrong time zone.

Anyone who lives or have been living in empire the last 3-4 years knows who Rebirth is. There is a reason why Rebirth / THE GOD SQUAD 2-3 years ago was the most feared corp / alliance in empire then.

So many feared us back then that no one / or most wouldn't fight us anylonger in the end because we did bring a fleet that others never couldn't break, basicly. They simply got tired of getting slaughtered every day.

Personally I don't care much about if we are good, bad, ugly, perfect, nub cakes or whatever....... I care about one important factor :

Are we having fun playing Eve ?

And yes we are having much fun!!

So if the alliance ceo doesn't care about the label you want to give it, why would anyone outside the alliance care ? Sorry if this will hurt your feelings, but I am not really interested in your negative opinion ?

Where would you put us? Just curious :)